{"id":10385,"date":"2022-10-07T08:43:58","date_gmt":"2022-10-07T06:43:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/apador.org\/?p=10385"},"modified":"2022-10-07T08:43:58","modified_gmt":"2022-10-07T06:43:58","slug":"pisica-lui-schrodinger-la-parlament","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/pisica-lui-schrodinger-la-parlament\/","title":{"rendered":"Pisica lui Schr\u00f6dinger la Parlament"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"qtranxs-available-languages-message qtranxs-available-languages-message-en\">Sorry, this entry is only available in <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10385\" class=\"qtranxs-available-language-link qtranxs-available-language-link-ro\" title=\"Rom\u00e2n\u0103\">Rom\u00e2n\u0103<\/a>. For the sake of viewer convenience, the content is shown below in the alternative language. You may click the link to switch the active language.<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Camera Deputa\u021bilor legifereaz\u0103 posibilitatea ca \u00een Rom\u00e2nia acela\u0219i text de lege s\u0103 poat\u0103 fi \u0219i constitutional, \u0219i neconstitu\u021bional, permi\u021b\u00e2ndu-le magistra\u021bilor s\u0103 respecte sau nu hot\u0103r\u00e2rile CJUE, CEDO, CCR sau ICCJ<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">APADOR-CH a formulat, \u00een luna septembrie 2022, un set de <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/trei-propuneri-pentru-tragerea-la-raspundere-a-magistratilor-care-gresesc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">trei propuneri pentru \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021birea proiectului de Lege privind statutul magistra\u021bilor<\/a>, pe care le-a transmis comisiei speciale comune din Parlament, care se ocup\u0103 cu modificarea Legilor justi\u021biei. Numai una din trei a fost preluat\u0103 par\u021bial \u00een <a href=\"https:\/\/www.senat.ro\/legis\/PDF\/2022\/22L612FC.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">forma adoptat\u0103 de Camera Deputa\u021bilor<\/a>, dar cu o completare care face ca articolul respectiv s\u0103 nu poat\u0103 fi aplicat \u00een practic\u0103.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Concret este vorba despre men\u021binerea abaterii disciplinare a judec\u0103torilor sau procurorilor care nu respect\u0103 hot\u0103r\u00e2rile CCR. Aceast\u0103 abatere fusese eliminat\u0103 din proiectul de lege privind statutul magistra\u021bilor, cu inten\u021bia de a le permite instan\u021belor s\u0103 aplice hot\u0103r\u00e2rile CJUE \u0219i atunci c\u00e2nd acestea sunt \u00een contradic\u021bie cu deciziile CCR \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/hotararile-curtii-de-justitie-a-uniunii-europene-cjue-sunt-mai-tari-decat-deciziile-curtii-constitutionale-ccr-diferenta-dintre-practica-si-teorie\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">o explica\u021bie g\u0103si\u021bi aici<\/a>. Eliminarea acestei abateri ar fi deschis drumul unui haos juridic, instan\u021bele fiind libere s\u0103 respecte sau s\u0103 ignore deciziile CCR, care de altfel sunt obligatorii pentru toat\u0103 lumea.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Camera Deputa\u021bilor a adoptat zilele astea o form\u0103 a Legii privind statutul magistra\u021bilor \u00een care a introdus la <strong>articolul 271 litera t) abaterea disciplinar\u0103 pentru nerespectarea hot\u0103r\u00e2rilor\/deciziilor CJUE, CEDO, CCR \u0219i ICCJ<\/strong>. De\u0219i este o form\u0103 u\u0219or diferit\u0103 de propunerea APADOR-CH, aceast\u0103 solu\u021bie ar rezolva problema, prin enumerarea instan\u021belor \u0219i deci indicarea ordinii \u00een care magistra\u021bii rom\u00e2ni trebuie s\u0103 le respecte deciziile. De exemplu, dac\u0103 exist\u0103 contradic\u0163ii \u00eentre o hot\u0103r\u00e2re CJUE \u015fi o decizie CCR \u015fi ar trebui \u201eales\u201d \u00eentre ele, potrivit enumer\u0103rii din art. 271 lit. t), prioritatea respect\u0103rii revine hot\u0103r\u00e2rii CJUE \u015fi doar nerespectarea acesteia atrage r\u0103spunderea disciplinar\u0103.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>ICCJ, va stabili c\u00e2nd \u015fi dac\u0103 trebuie respectate hot\u0103r\u00e2rile CJUE, CEDO \u015fi deciziile CCR<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dar, deputa\u021bii au sim\u021bit nevoia s\u0103 pluseze \u0219i au mai ad\u0103ugat o sintagm\u0103 care face inaplicabil \u00een practic\u0103 acest articol. Pentru a fi sanc\u0163ionabil\u0103, <strong>nerespectarea hot\u0103r\u00e2rilor\/deciziilor CJUE, CEDO, CCR, ICCJ trebuie s\u0103 se fac\u0103 \u201e<em>\u00een mod v\u0103dit \u015fi nejustificat<\/em>\u201d.<\/strong> Dac\u0103 nu sunt \u00eendeplinite ambele condi\u0163ii (\u00een mod v\u0103dit \u015fi \u00een mod nejustificat), fapta nu constituie abatere disciplinar\u0103.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O problem\u0103 este cine va aprecia caracterul justificat sau nu al nerespect\u0103rii unei hot\u0103r\u00e2ri CJUE, CEDO sau a unei decizii CCR sau ICCJ? Potrivit procedurii disciplinare, asupra existen\u0163ei sau nu a abaterii disciplinare se pronun\u0163\u0103, \u00een ultim\u0103 instan\u0163\u0103 ICCJ. Cu alte cuvinte, ICCJ, va fi entitatea care va stabili c\u00e2nd \u015fi dac\u0103 trebuie respectate de c\u0103tre instan\u0163ele na\u0163ionale hot\u0103r\u00e2rile CJUE, CEDO \u015fi deciziile CCR, deoarece ICCJ va aprecia dac\u0103 exist\u0103 sau nu abaterea disciplinar\u0103 \u00eentr-un caz concret, adic\u0103 va stabili dac\u0103 nerespectarea acestor hot\u0103r\u00e2ri\/decizii a fost sau nu justificat\u0103. Aparent, <strong>prin sintagma \u201e\u00een mod v\u0103dit \u015fi nejustificat\u201d se acord\u0103 o prea mare putere unei instan\u0163e (ICCJ) de a hot\u0103r\u00ee dac\u0103 se justific\u0103 sau nu respectarea hot\u0103r\u00e2rilor\/deciziilor unor entit\u0103\u0163i importante: CJUE, CEDO, CCR.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen acela\u0219i timp, dac\u0103 o instan\u0163\u0103 va considera c\u0103 are motive s\u0103 nu respecte aceste hot\u0103r\u00e2ri\/decizii, desigur c\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i va motiva (justifica)\u00a0 punctul de vedere, prin prezentarea unor argumente juridice, \u0219i astfel fapta de nerespectare a hot\u0103r\u00e2rilor\/deciziilor nu va constitui abatere disciplinar\u0103 deoarece judec\u0103torul va prezenta un ra\u0163ionament juridic care va contrazice hot\u0103r\u00e2rea CJUE, CEDO sau decizia CCR \u015fi va sus\u0163ine c\u0103 asta este convingerea sa.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>A\u0219adar, din cauza inaplicabilit\u0103\u0163ii practice a textului de lege \u00een care este reglementat\u0103 aceast\u0103 abatere, se men\u0163ine riscul gener\u0103rii unui \u015fir de anomalii juridice, \u00eentruc\u00e2t, de exemplu, acela\u015fi text de lege va fi, \u00een acela\u015fi timp, \u015fi constitu\u0163ional, \u015fi neconstitu\u0163ional, dup\u0103 cum unii judec\u0103tori vor respecta, iar al\u0163i judec\u0103tori nu vor respecta decizia CCR cu privire la respectivul text de lege.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O solu\u021bie care se impune pentru repararea situa\u021biei este eliminarea sintagmei \u201e\u00een mod v\u0103dit \u015fi nejustificat\u201d, urm\u00e2nd ca <strong><em>orice nerespectare<\/em><\/strong>, nu doar una v\u0103dit\u0103 \u015fi nejustificat\u0103, a unei hot\u0103r\u00e2ri\/decizii a CJUE, CEDO, CCR, ICCJ s\u0103 constituie abatere disciplinar\u0103.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">APADOR-CH a transmis din nou <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Recomandari-pt-Comisia-speciala-legi-justitie-oct2022-Senat.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">setul de propuneri de \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021bire a statutului magistra\u021bilor<\/a> (cu men\u021biunile de mai sus la modificarea art. 271 litera t), la aceea\u0219i comisie comun\u0103, de data asta sper\u00e2nd c\u0103 Senatul va \u021bine cont de ele \u0219i de logica juridic\u0103 ce impune coeren\u021b\u0103 \u0219i predictibilitate. Altfel vom avea legi <a href=\"https:\/\/ro.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pisica_lui_Schr%C3%B6dinger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">precum pisica lui Schr\u00f6dinger<\/a>, iar rezultatul aplic\u0103rii lor va fi c\u0103 ori se va face justi\u021bie, ori nu se va face, dar sigur nu va r\u0103spunde niciun magistrat pentru asta.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p class=\"qtranxs-available-languages-message qtranxs-available-languages-message-en\">Sorry, this entry is only available in <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10385\" class=\"qtranxs-available-language-link qtranxs-available-language-link-ro\" title=\"Rom\u00e2n\u0103\">Rom\u00e2n\u0103<\/a>. For the sake of viewer convenience, the content is shown below in the alternative language. You may click the link to switch the active language.<\/p>\n<p>Camera Deputa\u021bilor legifereaz\u0103 posibilitatea ca \u00een Rom\u00e2nia acela\u0219i text de lege s\u0103 poat\u0103 fi \u00een acela\u0219i timp \u0219i constitutional, \u0219i neconstitu\u021bional, permi\u021b\u00e2ndu-le magistra\u021bilor s\u0103 respecte sau nu hot\u0103r\u00e2rile CJUE, CEDO, CCR sau ICCJ<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":10388,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,29],"tags":[409,694,1561,297,1550],"class_list":["post-10385","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-buna-guvernare","category-comunicate","tag-camera-deputatilor","tag-legile-justitiei","tag-respectarea-hotararilor-cjue","tag-senat","tag-statutul-magistratilor"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10385","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10385"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10385\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10391,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10385\/revisions\/10391"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/10388"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10385"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10385"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10385"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}