{"id":9347,"date":"2020-10-26T17:40:25","date_gmt":"2020-10-26T15:40:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/apador.org\/?p=9347"},"modified":"2023-01-18T23:27:55","modified_gmt":"2023-01-18T21:27:55","slug":"am-dat-in-judecata-ministerul-finantelor-ca-sa-aflam-de-ce-platim-toti-erorile-justitiei","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/am-dat-in-judecata-ministerul-finantelor-ca-sa-aflam-de-ce-platim-toti-erorile-justitiei\/","title":{"rendered":"Am dat \u00een judecat\u0103 Ministerul Finan\u021belor ca s\u0103 afl\u0103m de ce pl\u0103tim to\u021bi erorile justi\u021biei"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"qtranxs-available-languages-message qtranxs-available-languages-message-en\">Sorry, this entry is only available in <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9347\" class=\"qtranxs-available-language-link qtranxs-available-language-link-ro\" title=\"Rom\u00e2n\u0103\">Rom\u00e2n\u0103<\/a>. For the sake of viewer convenience, the content is shown below in the alternative language. You may click the link to switch the active language.<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Singurul \u00een m\u0103sur\u0103 s\u0103 recupereze daunele pl\u0103tite de stat \u00een condamn\u0103rile la CEDO, MFP refuz\u0103 s\u0103 spun\u0103 dac\u0103 \u0219i \u00een c\u00e2te cazuri a \u00eencercat m\u0103car s\u0103 trag\u0103 la r\u0103spundere magistra\u021bii vinova\u021bi<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">R\u0103spunderea magistra\u021bilor, o marot\u0103 folosit\u0103 politic, mai mult pentru controlul justi\u021biei dec\u00e2t pentru \u00eendreptarea erorilor ei, este \u00een realitate, de mult\u0103 vreme, o form\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 fond \u00een societatea rom\u00e2neasc\u0103.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Concret, \u0219tim deja din 2017 c\u0103 niciun magistrat nu a fost pus s\u0103 pl\u0103teasc\u0103 pentru erorile comise \u00een cauze care au dus la condamnarea Rom\u00e2niei la CEDO, \u0219i asta pentru c\u0103 regulile sunt f\u0103cute astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t vinova\u021bii s\u0103 nu poat\u0103 fi tra\u0219i la r\u0103spundere.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">APADOR-CH<strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/de-ce-nu-functioneaza-raspunderea-magistratilor\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a demonstrat acest lucru \u00een 2017<\/a><\/strong>, dup\u0103 o coresponden\u021b\u0103 dus\u0103 cu Ministerul Finan\u021belor Publice (MFP) \u0219i cu Consiliul Superior al Magistraturii (CSM), pentru a afla \u00een c\u00e2te cazuri statul a formulat ac\u021biuni \u00een regres \u00eempotriva unor magistra\u021bi care \u0219i-au f\u0103cut meseria defectuos.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Mecanismul ac\u021biunii \u00een regres este aparent simplu: dup\u0103 ce pl\u0103te\u0219te, din partea statului, daunele stabilite de CEDO, MFP sesizeaz\u0103 CSM pentru a cere stabilirea vinov\u0103\u021biei magistra\u021bilor \u00een cazul respectiv. \u00cen urma unui proces ar trebui s\u0103 se afle dac\u0103 respectivii magistra\u021bi au ac\u021bionat cu rea credin\u021b\u0103 sau grav\u0103 neglijen\u021b\u0103, urm\u00e2nd ca MFP s\u0103 recupereze de la ei sumele pl\u0103tite de stat.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Numai c\u0103, a\u0219a cum sunt f\u0103cute acum, legile care reglementeaz\u0103 acest proces prev\u0103d \u0219i termene de prescriere suficient de scurte \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 \u00eempiedice efectiv tragerea la r\u0103spundere a magistra\u021bilor. De la comiterea faptelor p\u00e2n\u0103 la ob\u021binerea unei sentin\u021be la CEDO trec at\u00e2t de mul\u021bi ani \u00eenc\u00e2t niciun magistrat nu mai poate fi tras la r\u0103spundere pentru asta, a\u0219a c\u0103 statul pl\u0103te\u0219te \u0219i gata.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Prin urmare, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.apador.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/raspuns-MF-la-544-actiune-regres-magistrati.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00een 2013<\/a> <\/strong>\u0219i <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.apador.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/Raspuns-MF-2016-actiune-regres-magistrati.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00een 2016<\/a><\/strong>, MFP ne-a r\u0103spuns detaliat, ar\u0103t\u00e2nd cadrul legal existent \u0219i de ce nu a formulat nicio ac\u021biune \u00een regres, \u00eentruc\u00e2t, spunea MFP atunci, nu fusese sesizat \u00een niciun caz de c\u0103tre CSM, organismul care conform legii are competen\u021ba de a stabili r\u0103spunderea civil\u0103 sau disciplinar\u0103 a magistra\u021bilor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>APADOR-CH a dat atunci \u0219i ni\u0219te solu\u021bii pentru \u00eendreptarea lucrurilor, respectiv ni\u0219te termene de prescrip\u021bie mai lungi pentru angajarea r<\/strong><strong>\u0103spunderii disciplinare a magistra\u021bilor<\/strong><strong>\u00a0\u0219i care s\u0103 \u00eenceap\u0103 s\u0103 curg\u0103, \u00een astfel de cazuri, numai dup\u0103 pronun\u021barea hot\u0103r\u00e2rii CEDO (nu mai \u00eenainte, ca acum) sau posibilitatea ca MFP s\u0103 cear\u0103 direct \u00een instan\u021b\u0103 recuperarea daunelor de la magistra\u021bi, iar instan\u021ba respectiv\u0103 s\u0103 fie cea care stabile\u0219te vinov\u0103\u021bia acestora.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Patru ani mai t\u00e2rziu, pentru c\u0103 se vorbe\u0219te tot mai mult de r\u0103spunderea magistra\u021bilor, am vrut s\u0103 vedem dac\u0103 s-au mai schimbat lucrurile, a\u0219a c\u0103 am f\u0103cut din nou o solicitare de informa\u021bii publice la MFP, \u00eentreb\u00e2nd acela\u0219i lucru: dac\u0103 \u0219i \u00een c\u00e2te cazuri a formulat ac\u021biuni \u00een regres la adresa magistra\u021bilor care au gre\u0219it, \u0219i de pe urma acelor gre\u0219eli statul rom\u00e2n a pl\u0103tit daune materiale.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">De data asta, spre uimirea noastr\u0103, Ministerul Finan\u021belor ne-a r\u0103spuns sec c\u0103<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>informa\u021biile solicitate nu intr\u0103 \u00een sfera de competen\u0163e a Ministerului Finan\u0163elor Publice. Prin urmare, v\u0103 inform\u0103m c\u0103 am redirec\u0163ionat solicitarea dumneavoastr\u0103 Ministerului Justi\u021biei.<\/em><\/strong>\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">La r\u00e2ndul s\u0103u, Ministerul Justi\u021biei ne-a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 a trimis \u00eenapoi solicitarea c\u0103tre MFP, pentru c\u0103 acesta este titularul ac\u021biunii \u00een regres \u0219i nimeni nu poate s\u0103 spun\u0103 \u00een locul MFP dac\u0103 \u0219i \u00een c\u00e2te cazuri a \u00eencercat s\u0103 recupereze daunele.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Vedem a\u0219adar c\u0103 \u00een c\u00e2\u021biva ani, MFP nu numai c\u0103 nu s-a preocupat ca s\u0103 recupereze sumele pl\u0103tite de noi to\u021bi pentru gre\u0219elile altora, dar nici m\u0103car nu mai vrea s\u0103 recunoasc\u0103 asta, r\u0103spunz\u00e2nd cinstit la o cerere de informa\u021bii publice. Probabil MFP se consider\u0103 competent doar s\u0103 pl\u0103teasc\u0103 din buzunarele tuturor ni\u0219te daune, f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103-l intereseze recuperarea lor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen cele din urm\u0103<strong> APADOR-CH a dat \u00een judecat\u0103 Ministerul Finan\u021belor Publice pentru refuzul de a furniza informa\u021biile cerute. V\u0103 vom \u021bine la curent cu rezultatele procesului. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><div class=\"su-note\"  style=\"border-color:#e5a5af;border-radius:2px;-moz-border-radius:2px;-webkit-border-radius:2px;\"><div class=\"su-note-inner su-u-clearfix su-u-trim\" style=\"background-color:#ffbfc9;border-color:#ffffff;color:#333333;border-radius:2px;-moz-border-radius:2px;-webkit-border-radius:2px;\">\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Ce am cerut de la Ministerul Finan\u021belor Publice:<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">(Solicitare din 21 septembrie 2020)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<ol style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li><em> C\u00e2te <strong>ac\u0163iuni \u00een regres<\/strong> a\u0163i formulat, \u00een perioada 2016-2020, defalcat pe fiecare an, \u00eempotriva <strong>magistra\u0163ilor<\/strong> care au dispus m\u0103suri sau au pronun\u0163at hot\u0103r\u00e2ri judec\u0103tore\u015fti care, ulterior, au dus la condamnarea Rom\u00e2niei printr-o <strong>hot\u0103r\u00e2re a Cur\u0163ii Europene a Drepturilor Omului.<\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<ol style=\"text-align: justify;\" start=\"2\">\n<li><em> C\u00e2te <strong>ac\u0163iuni \u00een regres<\/strong> a\u0163i formulat, \u00een perioada 2016-2020, defalcat pe fiecare an, \u00eempotriva <strong>magistra\u0163ilor <\/strong>care au dispus m\u0103suri sau au pronun\u0163at hot\u0103r\u00e2ri judec\u0103tore\u015fti care, ulterior, au dus la plata de desp\u0103gubiri de c\u0103tre stat pentru acele m\u0103suri dispuse sau hot\u0103r\u00e2ri pronun\u021bate de magistra\u021bi, <strong>\u00een alte cazuri dec\u00e2t <\/strong><\/em><strong><em>cele pentru care R<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>om\u00e2nia a fost condamnat\u0103 printr-o hot\u0103r\u00e2re a Cur\u0163ii Europene a Drepturilor Omului<\/em><\/strong><em>.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<ol style=\"text-align: justify;\" start=\"3\">\n<li><em> C\u00e2te <strong>sesizari\/solicit\u0103ri a\u021bi primit de la Consiliul Superior al Magistraturii<\/strong>, \u00een perioada 2016-2020, defalcat pe fiecare an, pentru promovarea unor ac\u021biuni \u00een regres \u00eempotriva magistra\u021bilor, \u00een cazurile men\u021bionate la pct. 1 \u0219i 2 din prezenta cerere de informa\u021bii.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<ol style=\"text-align: justify;\" start=\"4\">\n<li><em> Dac\u0103 ave\u021bi posibilitatea legal\u0103 de a introduce ac\u021biuni \u00een regres \u00eempotriva magistra\u021bilor f\u0103r\u0103 o <strong>sesizare prealabil\u0103<\/strong> \u00een acest sens din partea <strong>Consiliului Superior al Magistraturii.<\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<ol style=\"text-align: justify;\" start=\"5\">\n<li><em> Dac\u0103 nu a\u0163i formulat astfel de ac\u0163iuni \u00een regres, care sunt motivele.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">P.S. Dezinteresul Ministerului de Finan\u021be pare a fi complet pe aceast\u0103 tem\u0103. La invita\u021bia de a participa online joi, 29 octombrie, la masa rotund\u0103 organizat\u0103 de APADOR-CH pentru dezbaterea primului raport al Comisiei Europene privind statul de drept, nu am primit nici m\u0103car un refuz, de\u0219i am f\u0103cut tot posibilul ca s\u0103 ajungem cu informa\u021bia p\u00e2n\u0103 la ministru. La evenimentul men\u021bionat, printre altele, se va discuta \u0219i despre tragerea la r\u0103spundere a magistra\u021bilor. \u00cen prezen\u021ba magistra\u021bilor \u0219i a ministerului de resort, dar \u00een absen\u021ba r\u0103sun\u0103toare a responsabilului cu vistieria public\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>UPDATE noiembrie 2020<\/strong> &#8211; Ca urmare a procesului intentat, Ministerul Finan\u021belor Publice ne-a transmis un r\u0103spuns detaliat \u00een care a explicat de ce nu a ini\u021biat nicio ac\u021biune \u00een regres. \u00cen urma primirii r\u0103spunsului, APADOR-CH a renun\u021bat la proces.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Raspuns-MFP-actiuni-regres-nov-2020.pdf\" class=\"su-button su-button-style-default\" style=\"color:#1c1b18;background-color:#02bedd;border-color:#0298b1;border-radius:6px\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span style=\"color:#1c1b18;padding:0px 18px;font-size:14px;line-height:28px;border-color:#4ed2e8;border-radius:6px;text-shadow:none\"> R\u0103spunsul Ministerului Finan\u021belor Publice<\/span><\/a>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dar \u00eentruc\u00e2t chestiunea tragerii la r\u0103spundere a magistra\u021bilor a r\u0103mas o problem\u0103 nerezolvat\u0103, APADOR-CH a mai avut propuneri de \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021biri legislative \u00een 2022:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"Link permanent: Trei propuneri pentru tragerea la r\u0103spundere a magistra\u021bilor care gre\u0219esc\" href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/trei-propuneri-pentru-tragerea-la-raspundere-a-magistratilor-care-gresesc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener\">Trei propuneri pentru tragerea la r\u0103spundere a magistra\u021bilor care gre\u0219esc<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u0219i rezultatul acelor propuneri:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"Link permanent: Cum s-a f\u0103cut de vom pl\u0103ti tot noi gre\u0219elile din justi\u021bie\" href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/cum-s-a-facut-de-vom-plati-tot-noi-greselile-din-justitie\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener\">Cum s-a f\u0103cut de vom pl\u0103ti tot noi gre\u0219elile din justi\u021bie<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p class=\"qtranxs-available-languages-message qtranxs-available-languages-message-en\">Sorry, this entry is only available in <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9347\" class=\"qtranxs-available-language-link qtranxs-available-language-link-ro\" title=\"Rom\u00e2n\u0103\">Rom\u00e2n\u0103<\/a>. For the sake of viewer convenience, the content is shown below in the alternative language. You may click the link to switch the active language.<\/p>\n<p>Singurul \u00een m\u0103sur\u0103 s\u0103 recupereze daunele pl\u0103tite de stat \u00een condamn\u0103rile la CEDO, MFP refuz\u0103 s\u0103 spun\u0103 dac\u0103 \u0219i \u00een c\u00e2te cazuri a \u00eencercat m\u0103car s\u0103 trag\u0103 la r\u0103spundere magistra\u021bii vinova\u021bi<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":9359,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1022,5,81],"tags":[1385,51,187,1021,1384,1389,1281],"class_list":["post-9347","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-articole-reportaje","category-buna-guvernare","category-slider","tag-actiuni-in-regres","tag-informatii-publice","tag-legea-5442001","tag-ministerul-finantelor","tag-ministerul-finantelor-publice","tag-raspunderea-magistratilor","tag-romania-condamnari-cedo"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9347","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9347"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9347\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10509,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9347\/revisions\/10509"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/9359"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9347"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9347"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9347"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}