{"id":9881,"date":"2021-11-02T13:51:20","date_gmt":"2021-11-02T11:51:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/apador.org\/?p=9881"},"modified":"2022-02-28T13:11:00","modified_gmt":"2022-02-28T11:11:00","slug":"colonelul-gheorghita-obligat-de-tribunal-sa-vorbeasca-si-de-sefii-lui-sa-taca","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/colonelul-gheorghita-obligat-de-tribunal-sa-vorbeasca-si-de-sefii-lui-sa-taca\/","title":{"rendered":"Colonelul Gheorghi\u021b\u0103, obligat de tribunal s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103 \u0219i de \u0219efii lui s\u0103 tac\u0103"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"qtranxs-available-languages-message qtranxs-available-languages-message-en\">Sorry, this entry is only available in <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9881\" class=\"qtranxs-available-language-link qtranxs-available-language-link-ro\" title=\"Rom\u00e2n\u0103\">Rom\u00e2n\u0103<\/a>. 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You may click the link to switch the active language.<\/p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>APADOR-CH a c\u00e2\u0219tigat procesul cu CNCAV, pentru ob\u021binerea unor informa\u021bii publice despre campania de vaccinare, dar via\u021ba le-a f\u0103cut \u00eentre timp irelevante<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>Informa\u021biile solicitate<\/em><\/strong><em> (&#8230;) <strong>privesc aspecte de interes public, cu at\u00e2t mai mult av\u00e2nd \u00een vedere situa\u021bia general\u0103 existent\u0103 la nivelul societ\u0103\u021bii \u00een urma declar\u0103rii pandemiei cu virusul SARS-COV-2<\/strong>.\u201d<\/em>\u00a0 &#8211; extras din hot\u0103r\u00e2rea Tribunalului Bucure\u0219ti \u00een cauza APADOR-CH vs. CNCAV<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen martie 2021 d\u0103deam \u00een judecat\u0103 Comitetul Na\u021bional de Coordonare a Activit\u0103\u021bilor privind Vaccinarea (CNCAV) pentru c\u0103 <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/ce-nu-ne-spune-colonelul-gheorghita\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">refuza s\u0103 ne spun\u0103<\/a> c\u00e2te doze de vaccin contractase Rom\u00e2nia, dac\u0103 \u0219i c\u00e2t pl\u0103tise pentru ele \u0219i pe c\u00e2te ne bazam \u00een continuare.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Erau informa\u021bii arz\u0103toare pentru acel moment, \u00een care vaccinarea se f\u0103cea prin centre secrete, cei dornici s\u0103 se vaccineze f\u0103ceau liste de a\u0219teptare, iar Guvernul f\u0103cea ce \u0219tia el mai bine \u2013 ascundea informa\u021biile de public. \u00cen ianuarie-februarie 2021 purtasem un <a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/asomarea-transparentei\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dialog al surzilor<\/a> cu Secretariatul General al Guvernului, Ministerul S\u0103n\u0103t\u0103\u021bii \u0219i CNCAV, care ne trimiteau de la unii la al\u021bii pe motiv c\u0103 nu ei, ci ceilal\u021bi de\u021bineau informa\u021biile cerute.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen final a picat vina pe CNCAV, desi cu siguran\u021b\u0103 nu era capul r\u0103ut\u0103\u021bilor, iar Tribunalul Bucure\u0219ti ne-a dat c\u00e2\u0219tig de cauz\u0103. \u00a0Procesul a durat \u0219ase luni (martie-septembrie), timp \u00een care Rom\u00e2nia a trecut de la listele de a\u0219teptare pentru vaccinare la vaccinarea la chiuvet\u0103 \u0219i la antivaccinare. Valul patru ne-a lovit \u00een plin, sute de oameni mor zilnic, nevaccina\u021bi, am ajuns \u201eminunea\u201d Europei, OMS a trimis speciali\u0219ti aici ca s\u0103 vad\u0103 de ce nu ne vaccin\u0103m, de\u0219i avem cu ce.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cen acest context, \u0219i dac\u0103 ne-ar mai r\u0103spunde colonelul Gheorghi\u021b\u0103 la curiozit\u0103\u021bile pe care le aveam \u00een iarn\u0103, probabil nu ar ajuta prea mult situa\u021bia. Se \u0219tie c\u0103 \u00eentre timp Rom\u00e2nia a primit milioane de doze de vaccin, dintre care unele au \u0219i expirat nefolosite. Nu se \u0219tie c\u00e2t a pl\u0103tit statul rom\u00e2n pentru ele \u0219i c\u00e2t mai urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 pl\u0103teasc\u0103. Poate ar fi totu\u0219i o informa\u021bie bun\u0103 pentru indeci\u0219i, dac\u0103 ar afla c\u00e2\u021bi bani se \u201earunc\u0103 la chiuvet\u0103\u201d (ca s\u0103 NU se vaccineze unii) sau se pierd prin dozele expirate.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Suntem, a\u0219adar, c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103torii \u00eenc\u0103 unui proces \u00een care justi\u021bia a spus c\u0103 statul trebuie s\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103 \u00eentreb\u0103rilor legitime din societatea civil\u0103 \u00eentr-o chestiune ce prive\u0219te interesul public. E drept, deocamdat\u0103 \u00een prim\u0103 instan\u021b\u0103, dar <a href=\"http:\/\/portal.just.ro\/3\/SitePages\/Dosar.aspx?id_dosar=300000000963368&amp;id_inst=3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dup\u0103 toate aparen\u021bele<\/a> CNCAV nu a f\u0103cut recurs, dup\u0103 cum nu s-a obosit nici s\u0103 trimit\u0103 un punct de vedere (\u00eent\u00e2mpinare) \u00een prim\u0103 instan\u021b\u0103.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Nu neg\u0103m c\u0103 probabil colonelul Gheorghi\u021b\u0103 a avut destule de f\u0103cut \u00een organizarea campaniei de vaccinare \u0219i c\u0103 e posibil ca CNCAV s\u0103 fi fost asaltat de cereri de informa\u021bii. Dup\u0103 cum e foarte posibil ca t\u0103cerea colonelului Gheorghi\u021b\u0103 s\u0103 fi fost dictat\u0103 de al\u021bii, \u00een fond acelea\u0219i informa\u021bii puteau s\u0103 fie furnizate de Guvern sau de Ministerul S\u0103n\u0103t\u0103\u021bii, dar au preferat s\u0103 ne trimit\u0103 s\u0103 le afl\u0103m de la CNCAV.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Opacitatea deja legendar\u0103 a autorit\u0103\u021bilor noastre are \u00een acest caz urm\u0103ri dramatice. C\u00e2nd discursul antivaccinist e mai accesibil dec\u00e2t comunicarea oficial\u0103, rezult\u0103 un dezastru sanitar. \u0218i \u00een mijlocul acestui dezastru, gestionarii crizei continu\u0103 s\u0103 se comporte la fel de opac, pretinz\u00e2nd c\u0103 nu sunt \u201eautorit\u0103\u021bi publice\u201d, de\u0219i iau decizii care ne privesc pe to\u021bi \u2013 vezi <a href=\"https:\/\/pressone.ro\/raed-arafat-grupul-tehnico-stiintific-nu-este-o-autoritate-publica-deci-nu-se-supune-transparentei-decizionale\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">cazul Grupului Tehnico \u0218tiin\u021bific<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Nu ne facem iluzii prea mari \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu ob\u021binerea informa\u021biilor nici \u00een urma acestui proces. Probabil \u0219efii colonelului Gheorghi\u021b\u0103 \u00eei vor cere s\u0103 tac\u0103 \u00een continuare, de\u0219i Tribunalul Bucure\u0219ti i-a cerut s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103. Solu\u021bia va fi un alt proces pentru executarea hot\u0103r\u00e2rii de fa\u021b\u0103, dar nici m\u0103car asta nu garanteaz\u0103 ob\u021binerea informa\u021biilor. Ne facem, \u00eens\u0103, de pe acum datoria s\u0103-l prevenim pe simpaticul colonel Gheorghi\u021b\u0103, c\u0103, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Bo7zkd0kRS4&amp;ab_channel=jojojoji\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">It&#8217;s not personal Gheorghi\u021b\u0103, it&#8217;s strictly businnes<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><div class=\"su-note\"  style=\"border-color:#e5cdd9;border-radius:2px;-moz-border-radius:2px;-webkit-border-radius:2px;\"><div class=\"su-note-inner su-u-clearfix su-u-trim\" style=\"background-color:#ffe7f3;border-color:#ffffff;color:#333333;border-radius:2px;-moz-border-radius:2px;-webkit-border-radius:2px;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Care sunt \u00eentreb\u0103rile la care CNCAV e obligat s\u0103 ne r\u0103spund\u0103, \u00een 30 de zile de la r\u0103m\u00e2nera definitiv\u0103 a deciziei Tribunalului Bucure\u0219ti:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>1<\/em><strong><em>.<\/em><\/strong><em>Care este num\u0103rul dozelor de vaccin anticovid-19, defalcat pe fiecare firm\u0103 produc\u0103toare, pe care statul rom\u00e2n le-a primit \u015fi pe care urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 le primeasc\u0103 de la Uniunea European\u0103.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>2. Dac\u0103 statul rom\u00e2n a primit sau urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 primeasc\u0103 vaccinuri de la al\u0163i furnizori\/alte entit\u0103\u0163i dec\u00e2t Uniunea European\u0103. \u00cen caz afirmativ, care sunt ace\u015fti furnizori\/aceste entit\u0103\u0163i, care sunt vaccinurile \u015fi cantit\u0103\u0163ile. pentru fiecare \u00een parte.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>3. Care este calendarul primirii de c\u0103tre statul rom\u00e2n a dozelor de vaccin men\u0163ionate la pct. 1 \u015fi 2 din prezen\u0163a cerere, defalcat pe termene \u0219i cantit\u0103\u021bi.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>4. Dac\u0103 statul rom\u00e2n a achitat sau urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 achite vreo sum\u0103 de bani \u00een contul vaccinurilor anticovid-19 primite de la Uniunea European\u0103, iar \u00een caz afirmativ care sunt sumele achitate p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een prezent sau care urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 fie achitate.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>5. Dac\u0103 statul rom\u00e2n a achitat sau urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 achite vreo sum\u0103 de bani \u00een contul vaccinurilor anticovid-19 primite de la al\u0163i furnizori\/alte entit\u0103\u0163i dec\u00e2t Uniunea European\u0103, iar \u00een caz afirmativ care sunt aceste sume.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/apador.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/APADOR-CH-raspuns-pentru-4840-din-30-august-2021-ds.-sectia-2.pdf\" class=\"su-button su-button-style-soft su-button-wide\" style=\"color:#324645;background-color:#f26a0f;border-color:#c2550c;border-radius:7px\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" title=\"bla\"><span style=\"color:#324645;padding:7px 20px;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;border-color:#f69757;border-radius:7px;text-shadow:none\"><i class=\"sui sui-hand-o-right\" style=\"font-size:16px;color:#FFFFFF\"><\/i> Februarie 2022 &#8211; r\u0103spunsul CNCAV la o parte din \u00eentreb\u0103rile APADOR-CH, \u00een urma deciziei instan\u021bei<\/span><\/a>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>APADOR-CH a c\u00e2\u0219tigat procesul cu CNCAV, pentru ob\u021binerea unor informa\u021bii publice despre campania de vaccinare, dar via\u021ba le-a f\u0103cut \u00eentre timp irelevante<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":9882,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1026,1022,81,24],"tags":[1454,1480,187,908,1464],"class_list":["post-9881","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-articole","category-articole-reportaje","category-slider","category-transparenta","tag-cncav","tag-colonelul-gheorghita","tag-legea-5442001","tag-vaccin","tag-vaccinare-covid-19"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9881","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9881"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9881\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10057,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9881\/revisions\/10057"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/9882"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9881"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9881"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/apador.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9881"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}